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I suggest trying out the pre-Blue Moon pocket pistol with up to +7 health on hit. The healing isn't insignificant unlike the vanilla version and due to its faster fire rate it has potential for great burst damage. It could pair well with sodapopper minicrits

I know everyone likes the current revert and I'm not saying we should permanently switch to using this. Just want to see it out of curiosity

protons wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 7:21 am can we have the item set bonuses for soldier, demo, heavy, and medic back? spy already has it with the modern letranger
pyro and sniper sets are questionable though

huutti wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 7:27 am

protons wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 7:21 am can we have the item set bonuses for soldier, demo, heavy, and medic back? spy already has it with the modern letranger
pyro and sniper sets are questionable though

i'd say to just add the sniper set too, pyro set is redundant because of powerjack speed

Suspicious Carl wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 7:28 am

huutti wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 7:27 am

i'd say to just add the sniper set too, pyro set is redundant because of powerjack speed

i agree with this 100%, add back every item set but pyro, im itching to get my hands on tank buster and croc o style

Pasta wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:25 am dont add the croc set bro sniper being immune to one of his few direct counters is retarded

Suspicious Carl wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 7:28 am

i agree with this 100%, add back every item set but pyro, im itching to get my hands on tank buster and croc o style

Gabber wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 4:54 pm we've been over this shit 10 times KID
no more item sets, because you have to change/ruin the balancing for the weapons for them to even be accurate, no one wants the fucking old brazilian's backup just so they can play with some shit nothingburger of a set
and no lil nigga we are not doing custom balancing

random wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 5:37 pm Within the plugin, we have the ability to tweak weapons so that only when used in the set they lose those extra bonuses, for example we have a Saharan version that removes the L'Etranger cloak bonus but only when you also have the YER equipped, and it otherwise applies. It's not active on the servers but it's in the plugin

• Pretty boy's pocket pistol reverted to pre-blue moon, which is the modern one but instead of +3 health per hit, it's +7. I'm interested if this makes it good enough to surpass the 15 hp pocket pistol or not
• Saharan Spy Historical Accuracy, this makes the L'Etranger not give a cloak bonus only when used in the saharan set, it still gives the cloak bonus if used with a regular knife.

random wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 6:35 pm

• Pretty boy's pocket pistol reverted to pre-blue moon, which is the modern one but instead of +3 health per hit, it's +7. I'm interested if this makes it good enough to surpass the 15 hp pocket pistol or not

random wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 6:35 pm

• Saharan Spy Historical Accuracy, this makes the L'Etranger not give a cloak bonus only when used in the saharan set, it still gives the cloak bonus if used with a regular knife.

random wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 5:37 pm Gas Jockey
The set bonus gave 10% movement speed and 10% bullet vulnerability, after the patch it was removed and the Powerjack inherited a 15% movement speed increase and 20% damage vulnerability

Hibernating Bear
The set bonus gave 5% crit resistance, after the patch nothing inherited it though the Brass Beast would go on to receive a 20% damage reduction bonus in Gun Mettle

random wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 5:37 pm So far we have only reverted item sets that lost something in the changeover. In the July 10 2013 patch, all set bonuses were removed and promptly moved to the items themselves, except for a few.

Special Delivery
The set bonus gave +25 hp, after the patch it was removed and the Shortstop inherited a 20% increased healing rate. This was later removed

Tank Buster
The set bonus gave 20% sentry resistance, after the patch it was removed and the Battalions Backup inherited a 15% damage reduction to sentries for everyone in your buff, not just you

Gas Jockey
The set bonus gave 10% movement speed and 10% bullet vulnerability, after the patch it was removed and the Powerjack inherited a 15% movement speed increase and 20% damage vulnerability

Croc-o-Style
The set bonus gave headshot immunity (you couldn't be killed by a headshot, would take 149 for example), after the patch it was removed and the Danger shield inherited a 15% bullet resistance and 20% explosive resistance

Saharan Spy
The set bonus gave reduced decloak sound and 0.5s longer cloak blink time, after the patch it was removed and nothing inherited it, but the L'Etranger was given a 40% increased cloak duration

Expert's Ordnance
The set bonus gave 10% fire damage resistance, after the patch nothing inherited it

Hibernating Bear
The set bonus gave 5% crit resistance, after the patch nothing inherited it though the Brass Beast would go on to receive a 20% damage reduction bonus in Gun Mettle

Medieval Medic
The set bonus gave +1 health regen, after the patch nothing inherited it, though the Amputator would go on to receive a +3 regen while active bonus and -20% damage penalty in the Two Cities update


Overall for the sets that actually matter the most, either we already have them reverted or one of the involved weapons now has a related stat on it. For example if we gave the pyro the gas jockey, it would stack with the existing powerjack, either that or we'd need to set it up so that the powerjack does not get it's own bonus when used with the set. Similar applies to the Tank Buster, Medieval Medic, and Hibernating Bear. The Expert's Ordnance is too minor to really count, and we already tried the post-polycount Croc-o-style and it wasn't liked very much.

On that note, we actually do have an inaccuracy here which is that the L'Etranger received increased cloak as compensation for losing Saharan Spy, but we brought back the set without removing the bonus.

Within the plugin, we have the ability to tweak weapons so that only when used in the set they lose those extra bonuses, for example we have a Saharan version that removes the L'Etranger cloak bonus but only when you also have the YER equipped, and it otherwise applies. It's not active on the servers but it's in the plugin

I am not in favor of trying or adding any of the other sets because they're either too minor to make a difference or would just conflict with existing items to make far more overpowered combinations.

random wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 5:37 pm So far we have only reverted item sets that lost something in the changeover. In the July 10 2013 patch, all set bonuses were removed and promptly moved to the items themselves, except for a few.
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On that note, we actually do have an inaccuracy here which is that the L'Etranger received increased cloak as compensation for losing Saharan Spy, but we brought back the set without removing the bonus.

Within the plugin, we have the ability to tweak weapons so that only when used in the set they lose those extra bonuses, for example we have a Saharan version that removes the L'Etranger cloak bonus but only when you also have the YER equipped, and it otherwise applies. It's not active on the servers but it's in the plugin

I am not in favor of trying or adding any of the other sets because they're either too minor to make a difference or would just conflict with existing items to make far more overpowered combinations.

• The Special Delivery Set - Currently on the server all the weapons (Shortstop, Mad Milk, and the Holy Mackerel) are reverted to their pre-Summer 2013 update versions.
• The Tank Buster Set - Only the Black Box is reverted to the pre-2013 version. The Battalion's Backup is not. The pre-2013 Battalion's used to be different. If this set is to be restored, then the Battalion's needs to be reverted to what I'd arguably say is its worse version (rage used to only increase when you got hit by damage). Reverting the old Battalion's is also likely to be rather difficult.
• The Gas Jockey - Only the Degreaser is reverted to the pre-2013 version. The Powerjack isn't. The pre-2013 Powerjack variants used to not have the speed on active buffs as what random has wrote. If this set is to be restored, then either we revert the Powerjack to pre-2013 OR the Powerjack gets reverted to its pre-2013 version whenever this item set is equipped.
• The Expert Ordnance - I would like to point out that the Loch-n-Load must be reverted to its pre-2013 version (the 2 shot version with grenade tumble) if this item set is to be restored. The Caber is already reverted to the pre-2013 version. So likewise, we either revert the LnL to its pre-2013 version OR revert it to the pre-2013 version whenever the item set is equipped. Honestly, the set bonus for this is rather unnoticeable if you were to ask me, but I'm open to this.
• The Hibernating Bear - The Brass Beast, The Buffalo Steak Sandvich, and the Warrior's Spirit are reverted to their post-2013 versions. You can see the issue with this.
• The Medieval Medic - The Crossbow and Amputator are reverted to their post-2013 versions.
• The Croc-o-Style Kit - Only the Bushwacka is reverted to the pre-2013 version, while the Sydney Sleeper is reverted to pre-Blue Moon and the Danger Shield is currently the vanilla version. I honestly want this back and revert both the Sleeper and Danger Shield to pre-2013 since it pisses off (pun intended) people.
• The Saharan Spy - Like what random has wrote, its the L'Etranger that's not reverted to pre-2013.

• Release Powerjack - Reverted to release, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, +25% dmg bonus, no random crits
• Hatless Update Powerjack - Reverted to Hatless Update, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, 20% melee vuln while active

protons wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:21 pm

• Release Powerjack - Reverted to release, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, +25% dmg bonus, no random crits
• Hatless Update Powerjack - Reverted to Hatless Update, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, 20% melee vuln while active

protons wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:21 pm

• Release Powerjack - Reverted to release, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, +25% dmg bonus, no random crits
• Hatless Update Powerjack - Reverted to Hatless Update, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, 20% melee vuln while active

Pig wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 12:43 am

protons wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:21 pm

• Release Powerjack - Reverted to release, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, +25% dmg bonus, no random crits
• Hatless Update Powerjack - Reverted to Hatless Update, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, 20% melee vuln while active

Hatless, but for reasons expressed above, I am against giving weapons two stats depending on item sets. Much more in favor of making the movement buff not tied to having the weapon out.

random wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 1:51 am Is what we have not enough? Do we really need to minmax every individual revert to the point where we go back and forth on something like set bonuses that are too minor to make much of an impact?

random wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 6:35 pm I am making two changes which we are going to try out.

• Pretty boy's pocket pistol reverted to pre-blue moon, which is the modern one but instead of +3 health per hit, it's +7. I'm interested if this makes it good enough to surpass the 15 hp pocket pistol or not
• Saharan Spy Historical Accuracy, this makes the L'Etranger not give a cloak bonus only when used in the saharan set, it still gives the cloak bonus if used with a regular knife.

Gabber wrote: Sun Feb 08, 2026 8:59 am Pocket pistol should stay where it was for centuries now because it worked perfectly.
The +15 max HP combined with the anti-fall damage stat saved me more times than i can count.
The weapon was literally created to pair with the BFB and it serves in that role perfectly since you don't have to jump to save yourself from dying.

protons wrote: Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:21 pm
Realistically with the constraints imposed (and based on how difficult these could be implemented in the plugin), then the Gas Jockey, and the Expert Ordnance can be reverted provided that whenever a player equips those item sets, their respective weapons are reverted to the pre-2013 versions to make the item set play as close and it used to be back then. These might be easier to implement since their weapons are just attribute-based reverts. Ideally, whenever someone equips an item set, their respective weapons are reverted to pre-2013 to accurately depict how the set used to be played.

Oh and for the Gas Jockey set, which pre-2013 version of the Powerjack should it be whenever the item set is equipped? The release Powerjack or the Hatless Update Powerjack? I'm asking this regardless if its implemented in the server or not, I'm asking this more for the sake of the plugin itself:

• Release Powerjack - Reverted to release, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, +25% dmg bonus, no random crits
• Hatless Update Powerjack - Reverted to Hatless Update, no movespeed bonus or dmg vuln, kills restore 75 health with overheal, 20% melee vuln while active