10 Years of Meet Your Match!!!!!!

[Scout]

Ever since the first apes climbed out of the trees, there were apes who did it faster. Some apes just fell out of the tree. It's a sad fact that all apes are not created equal.
Presenting our newest tree-climbing-down simulator, matchmaking. Play alone or with your friends against players of similar skill levels. Climb out of that tree at your own speed, confident that the apes around you aren't beating you to the bananas. Which technically grow IN trees, but maybe the ripest ones probably fall to the ground? Yeah, that makes sense. Look, this isn't a banana simulator, people.

[Source: Update page]
Funny how Valve used an ape analogy to describe an update that was made by and for apes.

Meet Your Match. It sucked. You all know the main reasons why.
Part of me is sad that I never got to experience pre-MyM TF2, while part of me is glad I didn't watch this game get raped in real-time.

Besides the update's main 4 sins (casual, competitive, nerfs, rigged war), here are some more:

• The maps it added were all made for competitive and therefore should have never been added to normal TF2 just out of principle
• It ruined the jumper weapon models for no reason
• It added keyless cosmetic crates + a crate with more stranges, I'm sure gamblers loved this update
• Taunts are ass (granted, that's always the case)
• Promo items suck (granted, that's also normal)
• It made the main menu look worse (before vs after)
• Viewmodel minmode is just unnecessary - I used to play with it on and find regular viewmodels nauseating; now I find minmode off-putting
• Probably even more

Please discuss how you're going to mourn this occasion.

[random]

It's crazy that the game has had MyM longer than it hasn't. I'm glad community servers have never stopped existing, so that we can still experience the game as it was in it's prime.

[Suspicious Carl]

[mjaded]

you forgot the match hud, which got introduced around the time of MyM. it isn't necessarily bad to have the option to see which enemy classes are dead, but i've had tf_use_match_hud 0 in my autoexec for years because it looks much cleaner with just the timer at the top of the screen and i don't think i've ever been at any actual disadvantage. i also vastly prefer the regular size viewmodels, but i don't mind there being an option for it.

making the game unquestionably worse is one thing. tf2 had several hiccups during its prime, granted they were never as detrimental as MyM. the frustrating part is how genuinely piss-easy it is to fix it, and yet they refuse to. the contractor or eric or whoever could reverse MyM in one afternoon. this hypothetical bring back quickplay update would be the easiest fucking slam dunk in history, player numbers would grow and they'd make even more money in the mann co. casino. i mentioned this at some point during birthday week but the only answer i can come up with as to why they won't is "company pride", which sounds nonsensical but i don't know what else it could be.

i'm not really sure what we can do about it, either. showing up to valve hq does nothing, they're under strict orders from willy wonka to block out all windows and not exit the building if they see someone protesting tf2. a twitter hashtag did nothing the first time, and only got them to address a symptom of the casual problem the second time (bots). a third movement does indeed have a chance of getting what the game actually needs, but the problem there is that all of the ecelebs who the playerbase for some reason put in charge of everything are under mr. trickle-down balance's spell and will continue to pretend there is absolutely nothing wrong with matchmaking. the only one who will try a movement, who i'm sure most here are familiar with, is on the community-wide unmentionables list and will have significant trouble starting a campaign on his own. i hope to be proven wrong, i don't hate the guy by any means, but i'm not holding my breath.

[Gabber]

i spent the 10 year anniversary of M*M raping niggas with the bison on a 2 hour match of freight & then asteroid after dat im just chill af right now smoking weed n shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet lmaoooooooo who give af about valve anymore bro
we FUCKING WON

[Asmo]

i'm not old...

[random]

Seems valve decided to celebrate the occasion by releasing another slop update

[Dillon]

Valve releasing yet another Summer slop update with no mention of their promised MvM content on the 10th anniversary of the worst update they ever added is peak Valve behavior LOL.

As for mirajaded's post, this is why I don't give a shit if they add quickplay back or not. Even if they did do it, they would find a way to fuck it up, and at the end of the day it wouldn't be the same as playing on Castaway. We shouldn't even bother 'protesting' or begging Valve to add or remove content that's already in the game, because they:
a) Don't give a shit
b) Are too prideful to admit that MYM and anything they've added after it were objectively bad.
Why bother even trying to get through to them in the first place? We saw exactly how that played out with SaveTF2 and FixTF2, which themselves are excellent arguments as to why the current-day TF2 playerbase deserves absolutely nothing from Valve. If quickplay actually did get added back or, more feasibly, if they somehow 'fixed' all of the matchmaking system's problems, I would still play Castaway or DixieDandy over that shit any day of the week, because on these servers I actually get to play with people who aren't the completely insufferable degenerates and reddit tourists that infest TF2's official servers (mostly).

[Asmo]

Seems valve decided to celebrate the occasion by releasing another slop update

I haven't looked yet, is it bad?

edit: they added mojave, so it's alright

[Dillon]

Seems valve decided to celebrate the occasion by releasing another slop update

I haven't looked yet, is it bad?

edit: they added mojave, so it's alright

Casual players are subhuman goyim who do not deserve to play cp_mojave.

[random]

i'm not really sure what we can do about it

I don't think we need to do anything about it. If castaway is everything I want out of the game, I don't really care if valve fixes their own servers or not. I've come to terms with the fact that valve is never going to fix the game, so why bother worrying about it when we can just build the game we actually want via community servers? There's not really any changes we can't undo with mods and plugins so anything they do to fuck up the game can be reverted and we can have our little slice of pie here. If the rest of the community want to be uncaring cattle and just accept the slop they're fed then that isn't really my problem imo.

[Asmo]

I don't think we need to do anything about it. If castaway is everything I want out of the game, I don't really care if valve fixes their own servers or not. I've come to terms with the fact that valve is never going to fix the game, so why bother worrying about it when we can just build the game we actually want via community servers? There's not really any changes we can't undo with mods and plugins so anything they do to fuck up the game can be reverted and we can have our little slice of pie here. If the rest of the community want to be uncaring cattle and just accept the slop they're fed then that isn't really my problem imo.

Soo this. I've stopped caring about quickplay entirely. It would be nice, but it's never going to happen. Even if it did, I still wouldn't play it. They will never revert all the kino weapons that they destroyed during that era.

[mjaded]

I don't think we need to do anything about it.

unfortunately, you are right. pretty much everything is there to make whatever game you want for the client and server.

if more servers grow their communities, that community quickplay tool might actually be useful instead of just sending you to 1 of 3 sludge servers like skial.

[Genuline]

it's unbelievable to me that TF2 has remained in its current state for 10 years, we lost so much with MYM and got absolutely nothing in return. when I think about it I started playing TF2 on steam in February of 2014, so I only experienced like less than 2 years of peak TF2 before MYM. those times I'll never forget not just with quickplay, but also the plethora of community servers I used to frequent. now they're all gone much like many parts of my life from back then & what remains is to press forward. it's definitely too-little-too-late for valve to step in but casual needs to fucking go out of principle, everything it stands for is an insult to TF2

the only hail mary I can think of is TF2's 20th anniversary, valve did cool shit for half-life and half-life 2 so maybe the rest of the orange box will get special treatment. don't know what they'd do for the episodes and portal but TF2 has so many issues that could be addressed to celebrate the best multiplayer game ever

the anniversary also being followed up by a content dump summer update is just the icing on the cake. I've said a lot of this in the chat or in-game but there's no way we didn't play a part in Mojave getting added. of all the semi-decent to great community maps from the 2010's, the one we played the most just so happened to be put in the official rotation? anyway don't forget to update your nohats custom builds[/url] to remove up to 24 hats you don't want to see

[Genuline]

i spent the 10 year anniversary of M*M raping niggas with the bison on a 2 hour match of freight & then asteroid after dat im just chill af right now smoking weed n shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet lmaoooooooo who give af about valve anymore bro
we FUCKING WON

so true, same... except the weed part. I better see your POV on the clips channel for that 2nd freight match